Eleven
Questions for Toni Nissi: A Lebanese Fighter Against
Terrorism
W. Thomas Smith, Jr.
Toni Nissi is
a fighter: Not in the sense of an armed combatant in a pitched
battle; but certainly in the sense of a 21st-Century
fighter battling terrorism on one of its myriad asymmetrical
fronts. And as the general coordinator of the International
Lebanese Committee for U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559, a
pro-democracy United Nations-affiliated nongovernmental
organization (NGO), Nissi may well be one of the most important
combatant commanders on the ground in
Lebanon.
He juggles his time spent as leader of a political cause – that
of fighting to establish a free and sovereign
Lebanon –
with running a business and taking care of his a family. It's
not easy, but as he says, “I am a father and a son and it is my
duty to protect my family and provide a safe haven for them.”
I spent a lot
of time with Nissi in
Lebanon
over the past several weeks. Before returning to the states, I
sat down with him for a brief Q&A.
W.
THOMAS SMITH JR.: What is it that the American people may not
understand about
Lebanon
that they must?
TONI
NISSI:
First, they have to understand that
Lebanon is
a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural, pluralistic country trying to
restore democracy, and we are trying to do so after the Syrians
have lorded over us for the last 30 years. And by stripping us
of our sovereignty,
Syria has
turned
Lebanon
into a breeding ground for terrorism.
Second,
America must
know who the terrorists are in
Lebanon:
Hezbollah and its allies such al Qaeda, Hamas, and the various
Palestinian Jihadist terrorists. Global terrorism strikes from
them. And let’s not forget that Ziad Jarrah, one the September
11th hijackers, was born, spent much of his life, and
was recruited in
Lebanon.
Lebanon
is a major front in the ongoing war between the free world and
the Jihadists. And if this front here in
Lebanon
were to collapse, the terrorism that is here could easily spread
to all the world. Therefore, it is in the best interest of
America
and the free world to involve itself in this war and help the
Lebanese, who alone cannot beat the terrorists.
SMITH: What must Americans do to help?
NISSI: On March 14, 2005, 1.5-million
Lebanese took to the streets demanding freedom and pure
democracy without waiting for the weak government in
Beirut to ask for
help. It was from this demonstration that the 14th
of March movement was born, and in the spirit of that, the
Americans went to the United Nations to produce what would
become U.N. Security Council Resolution 1559. But the U.N. must
put 1559 under Chapter 7, which means putting
Lebanon under
direct U.N. supervision – as in
East Timor and Kosovo – to
enable the Lebanese people to reform the entire country
including the government institutions and the armed forces.
There also needs to be support for NGOs inside Lebanon that work
to promote Lebanese sovereignty, independence, and democracy;
because the terrorist organizations in Lebanon have infiltrated
all of the government institutions from one end to the next.
Consequently, all money sent by the
United States
to help the Lebanese government ends up in the hands of those
terrorist organizations. Of course, the Lebanese government is
unable to control this for many reasons.
The
U.S. must
also support the Lebanese army and the Interior Security Forces
[ISF] in order to thwart and control the terrorists after
forcing out the key officers who were previously put in
positions of authority by
Syria.
This can be done by simply implementing UNSCR 1680 under Chapter
7.
SMITH:
Lebanon
has been unable to elect a president for a variety of reasons,
and it doesn’t look like it will be able to before the November
24th deadline when sitting President Emile Lahoud
steps down. What are the biggest obstacles to
Lebanon’s
electing a president right now?
NISSI: The first obstacle would be the Syrian-Iranian
attacks against the Cedars Revolution at the hand of the
Hezbollah terrorists and their allies in
Lebanon.
This reality is far different than what is currently being
portrayed in the media as a battle between the majority (those
wanting a free, democratic, and sovereign
Lebanon)
and the opposition (those in league with – or who are supported
by – Hezbollah and their Syrian-Iranian masters).
The second obstacle is that the pro-democracy 14th
of March politicians are all under threat of assassination
as this was the trend until now. This threat alone might make it
impossible for us to elect a president. It's also a fact that
the pro-democracy supporters lack political experience, because
Syria has
been calling the shots in
Lebanon
for the last 30 years. That is why pro-democracy people here in
Lebanon
did not initially know how to ally with the international
community and ask for its help to defeat terrorism in this
country.
The third obstacle is that the government of
Lebanon by
itself has not been able to – and if freely elected, will never
be able to – disarm Hezbollah. That is a real problem for this
country.
SMITH: Is
Lebanon
heading for war?
NISSI:
Lebanon is
already at war with terror.
Lebanon
fought its war against Syrian occupation with the help of the
international community after 1559 was issued and now is
enduring an internal war on terror with the equilibrium shifting
to the benefit of the terrorists. This is a result of the
weakness of the Lebanese, though certainly not a lack of will.
Mind you, a coup d’etat launched by Hezbollah on behalf of
Syria and
Iran might
lead to an uprising from the Lebanese people.
SMITH: Is Hezbollah stronger today than it was before
the 2006 war with
Israel?
NISSI: Of course. Hezbollah is definitely stronger
today than it was in 2006. Actually it is getting stronger day
by day. The Syrian-Lebanese border is still open without control.
Hezbollah is controlling more than 50% of Lebanese territory.
Hezbollah and
Syria are
united geographically. Therefore, Hezbollah can only grow
stronger.
Only a few months ago, their own leaders said, Hezbollah's
arsenal has grown from 12,000 missiles to 30,000 missiles. They
have recruited thousands of new terrorists from all around the
Muslim and Arab world. They are politically strong: physically
surrounding the Lebanese government and parliament, impeding all
government decision-making, abusing the presidential election
and threatening the Lebanese people daily in all their media.
SMITH: What are some of the personal issues you and
members of the 1559 committee are dealing with?
NISSI: Because members of the 1559 committee are
fighting the terrorists here, we are being labeled by the
terrorist-controlled media as traitors. Our personal businesses
have been attacked. Our communications and our moves are
constantly monitored. Some of us have been physically attacked,
and directly and indirectly threatened by Hezbollah and its ally
the Social Syrian National Party. We are followed when we are in
cars all the time. They come after our families when we are on
business trips or at work. We have been informed lately that
some of us are on “hit lists” and we have been “advised” to
leave the country.
SMITH:
What are the strengths and weakness of the army and the ISF in
your opinion?
NISSI:
During the
Syrian occupation, the Lebanese Army and the ISF were purposely
neglected. This resulted in none of the laws relating to the
armed forces being upgraded or modified – not since the 1960s,
in fact -- to match the natural progress of the all armies of
the world.
Officers were trained in
Syria and
were brainwashed into believing that
Syria is the
brother of
Lebanon,
Hezbollah is the legitimate resistance, and everybody else is
the enemy.
The army's weaponry has not been adequately upgraded for 25
years. This was reflected during the fight at Nahr al-Bared
against Fatah al-Islam. The same thing with the ISF.
The strength of the military lies with the young generation of
officers and soldiers, still ready to die for Lebanon and to
fight Lebanon‘s real enemies.
SMITH: Where do you see
Lebanon in
five years?
NISSI:
Lebanon will
either be a new
Afghanistan
exporting terror to the rest of the free world or an
independent, pluralistic sovereign country recovering under the
supervision of the U.N.
SMITH: Why do you do what you do involving yourself so heavily
in the cause?
NISSI:
Because I consider myself a free citizen of this world. And I
consider it my duty to fight terrorism along with the citizens
and the governments of the free world. It is my duty as a
Lebanese, who loves his country, to involve himself in his
country's greatest cause: that of freedom. Also, I have more
experience than others in fighting terrorists in
Lebanon,
for I – and others like me – have been the pioneers in fighting
terrorism for the last 38 years.
I am also involved because I am a Christian entrusted with the
Christian Aramaic heritage. I am a father and a son and it is my
duty to protect my family and provide a safe haven for them. And
finally, out of loyalty to all the blood that was shed for the
sake of
Lebanon: be
it by Lebanese or by the friends and allies of
Lebanon.
SMITH: Are you ever afraid?
NISSI: Occasionally.The only fear I have is to die like
my two very best friends, MP Pierre Gemayel and MP Gebran Tueini,
before finishing my mission – which is getting Lebanon to a safe
shore.
SMITH: What is next on the agenda for the 1559 Committee?
NISSI: We are working on putting the 1559 under Chapter
7 because of all the reasons we've just discussed. And we must
see our way to electing a president, because we believe that
this presidential election is a turning point in the life of the
Cedars Revolution and one battle to be won in the international
war on terrorism.